【聊天的人】
鲁韵子：一颗丢进麦田里的稗子，总会长出毒芽来。
浔阳：“阳老师”。一个乙方。精神状态如头像所示。
Max：“麦教授”。没有亚文化趣味的文学翻译做不好学问，不喜欢烂梗的自由撰稿人做不好播客。
小海：写过新闻，做过翻译，搞过艺术，开过餐厅，卖过半导体，进过核电站。现在正在学习如何做一名骄傲的得克萨斯老父亲。

【时间轴】
0:46 《极乐迪斯科》（Disco Elysium）中的技能“内陆帝国”的文字介绍
1:50 阳老师对《内陆帝国》的概括与理解：三层嵌套的故事
6:22 《内陆帝国》剧情中的电影与该电影原型故事之间关系的比喻：《金瓶梅》与《红楼梦》？
7:31 艺术片与类型片的关系，以及国内影视圈的现状
10:42 国内分析者理解大卫·林奇时的一些惯性
12:00 林奇关怀的是人的精神世界
15:58 《双峰》（Twin Peaks）中库珀探员：一个非典型的男性形象
17:49 林奇对《穆赫兰道》（Mulholland Drive）的女主角Diane的态度，以及与当前社会会对这类女性所抱持的态度的对比
20:37 那么林奇的电影算“老登电影”吗？
23:36 林奇在作品中对于女性角色的呈现
34:08 Max试图用林奇在访谈中的一段话为本期节目收尾
36:13 收尾失败了，讨论还在继续：林奇选择了一条独特的道路
44:30 鲁韵子最后提议我们以及听众们一起思考的一个问题
45:36 彩蛋环节

【参考资料】

• 《极乐迪斯科》海报：
• 《内陆帝国》海报：
• 《双峰》的库珀探员剧照：
• 《穆赫兰道》中落魄状态的戴安：
• 《蓝色丝绒》海报：
• Radiohead的Fitter Happier的歌词：Fitter, happier, more productive/Comfortable (Not drinking too much)Regular exercise at the gym (Three days a week)/Getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries/At ease Eating well (No more microwave dinners and saturated fats)/A patient, better driver/A safer car (Baby smiling in back seat)/Sleeping well (No bad dreams)/No paranoia/Careful to all animals (Never washing spiders down the plughole)/Keep in contact with old friends (Enjoy a drink now and then)/Will frequently check credit at (Moral) bank (hole in wall)/Favours for favours/Fond but not in love/Charity standing orders/On Sundays ring road supermarket (No killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants)/Car wash (Also on Sundays)/No longer afraid of the dark Or midday shadows/Nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate/Nothing so childish/At a better pace/Slower and more calculated/No chance of escape/Now self-employed/Concerned (But powerless)/An empowered and informed member of society (Pragmatism not idealism)/Will not cry in public/Less chance of illness/Tires that grip in the wet (Shot of baby strapped in back seat)/A good memory/Still cries at a good film/Still kisses with saliva/No longer empty and frantic/Like a cat/Tied to a stick/That's driven into/Frozen winter shit (The ability to laugh at weakness)/Calm Fitter, healthier and more productive/A pig/In a cage/On antibiotics

Special Guest: 鲁韵子.